Comments on: My Greatest Pet Peeve https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/ Making data management a revenue generator Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:43:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/#comment-954 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:25:33 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=221#comment-954 I think we’re all in agreement here. It’s a rather nonsensical question. Kind of like asking your doctor “Well, how does my health compare to my neighbor’s?”

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By: Scott Briscoe https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/#comment-953 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:58:20 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=221#comment-953 I think this is the wrong debate. Member retention should be a secondary stat to monitor at best. If less and less of your org’s income comes from dues, and you shed a few mailbox members, who cares? What matters is how many people who previously were not engaged with your organization are now — and how many people who were engaged no longer do (and why).

I flesh the idea out better in a previous post of mine on Acronym.

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By: Scott Oser https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/#comment-952 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:57:55 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=221#comment-952 Wes,

I completely agree with you. Over time I have worked with a number of organizations who insist I work with ASAE to get them benchmarking information on retention rates or recruitment response rates or a myriad of other stats that are kept and available. I always suggest that benchmarking against “industry standards” really does not tell them much. What they really need to be concerned about is figuring out ways to do better than they are today. In figuring out how to do that they need to truly understand their members, their industry, etc. and the potential challenges that may limit their ability or inability to retain their members.

I do get looked at kind of sidewise some times when I say this as I think some BOD members and even association staff think it is a cop out when I say the key to good performance in retention is to always try to do better than you have done in the past.

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By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/#comment-951 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:56:02 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=221#comment-951 I think their retention rates should be evaluated within the context of their own situation and their history. For example, at the National Association of College and University Business Officers, their retention among four-year colleges is nearly 100%. Obviously you can’t do much better than that (in that category) so if growth is necessary (it may not be) then they’ll have to look at other categories (or create new ones).

Also, the association’s mission needs to be taken into account. If the market we serve is served by dozens of other associations, then retention will likely be lower, but we also have to consider whether or not we should be trying to serve that whole market, if there are so many others providing similar services.

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By: David M. Patt, CAE https://effectivedatabase.com/my-greatest-pet-peeve/#comment-950 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:34:54 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=221#comment-950 Good point, Wes, but we’re all trained to look at “benchmarks” (I hate that word). How do you think associations can evaluate their retention rates?

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