Comments on: Things I heard at ASAE Tech Conference III – Modify your expectations https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/ Making data management a revenue generator Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:42:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1251 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:06:05 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1251 In reply to Gary Kilgore.

Actually, I do all the time, Gary. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had clients or potential clients tell me “We’ve got free licenses from SF Foundation. Can’t we just use that for our AMS?” (Note their expectation.)

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By: Gary Kilgore https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1250 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:55:29 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1250 Wes, I doubt you tell your clients they should modified their expectations when they are perusing Salesforce.

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By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1249 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:41:30 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1249 In reply to David Sieg.

>>>today there is likely a very good solution that fits your real-world budget and delivers the increased value/success you need.

Agreed.

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By: David Sieg https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1248 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:30:10 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1248 I think it’s a lot like buying a car… (where did I hear that before!?) I can get a car for virtually nothing. Today. Right now. On the local corner lot a salesman will take me for a quick spin, and I’ll be on my way for CHEAP! Or… I can spec out my ‘dream’ ride. Order all the trimmings, have custom work done to build it out EXACTLY how I like. Chances are, it’ll take a while longer for that car to be built and delivered. Heck, they may not even get my custom ostrich skin seats monogrammed correctly — and I’ll have to send it back to the dealer for tweaking. Oh, and I know it will certainly cost a LOT more than the car at the corner lot. And maybe that’s OK…

Today’s technology, including AMSes, need to come in many flavors. There are tools that are virtually free and, on the other end of the spectrum, tools that will easily set you back six figures. And there are tools in the middle that provide tremendous value.

I analyze value via this simple formula: “Quality/Price = Value” or “Higher quality/lower price = greater value.” Today’s AMSes come in different packages: need something cheap? You got it! It’s out there. Need an ultra-custom development that will meet nearly 100 percent of your business needs — you can get that too. But it’ll take longer to implement and cost more.

Take a look at your association’s very real needs. Take a peek at your budget. Demo different levels of AMSes, and get an accurate quote to see which one provides the greatest value for your organization.

There’s no magic panacea (us vendors won’t stop trying!), but today there is likely a very good solution that fits your real-world budget and delivers the increased value/success you need.

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By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1247 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:33:24 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1247 In reply to Jeff De Cagna.

Great question, Jeff. Strategically, associations need to move from transactional to transformational. Too much of the AMS work is still focused on transactions (e.g., how do I process this order more efficiently). The transformational will occur when associations start looking at their data holistically, which includes really understanding who their volunteers are and how their members and customers want to engage with the association.

Many of the AMS products can address this now, but too many associations are still too focused on the transactional.

Am I answering your question?

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By: Jeff De Cagna https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1246 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:18:28 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1246 Wes, let’s set aside the semantic argument and focus on the substantive one, which is that associations need better technology to build better business models that will make it possible for us to serve our most demanding 21st century stakeholders. What are your thoughts on how we achieve this outcome?

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By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1245 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:56:27 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1245 In reply to Sig VanDamme.

Agreed. Demand excellence but not perfection.

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By: Sig VanDamme https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1244 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:32:34 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1244 Wes,

I think this goes for almost everything; software, relationships, etc.

Question: What is the difference between excellence and perfection?

Answer: Excellence is achievable.

I think that for too long Associations have been dealing with sub-excellence and they should expect/demand excellence from their AMS.

-Sig

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By: Wes Trochlil https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1243 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:19:07 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1243 In reply to Mark Streger.

Mark, I wrote above, ” If your expectation is that a new AMS will be the answer to all of your problems, then you need to modify your expectations.” Are you saying that AMS vendors can now solve all of our problems? If so, please point me to them, I’d like to buy their company. ;-)

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By: Mark Streger https://effectivedatabase.com/things-i-heard-at-asae-tech-conference-iii-modify-your-expectations/#comment-1242 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:08:31 +0000 http://effectivedatabase.com/?p=3805#comment-1242 Wes

This was fine in 1994 when distributed software and SQL was new to the AMS world. 16 years later the vendors should get it right, no excuses anymore.

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